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Political DebateAuthor:whogo Viewed:  243  
Liberals certifiably insane   
Liberals clinically mad, concludes top psychiatrist
Eminent doctor makes case leftist ideology is a mental disorder

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Posted: November 12, 2008
6:33 pm Eastern

© 2008 WorldNetDaily




WASHINGTON – Just when liberals thought it was safe to start identifying themselves as such, an acclaimed, veteran psychiatrist is making the case that the ideology motivating them is actually a mental disorder.

"Based on strikingly irrational beliefs and emotions, modern liberals relentlessly undermine the most important principles on which our freedoms were founded," says Dr. Lyle Rossiter, author of the new book, "The Liberal Mind: The Psychological Causes of Political Madness." "Like spoiled, angry children, they rebel against the normal responsibilities of adulthood and demand that a parental government meet their needs from cradle to grave."

While political activists on the other side of the spectrum have made similar observations, Rossiter boasts professional credentials and a life virtually free of activism and links to "the vast right-wing conspiracy."

For more than 35 years he has diagnosed and treated more than 1,500 patients as a board-certified clinical psychiatrist and examined more than 2,700 civil and criminal cases as a board-certified forensic psychiatrist. He received his medical and psychiatric training at the University of Chicago.

Rossiter says the kind of liberalism being displayed by both Barack Obama and his Democratic primary opponent Hillary Clinton can only be understood as a psychological disorder.

"A social scientist who understands human nature will not dismiss the vital roles of free choice, voluntary cooperation and moral integrity – as liberals do," he says. "A political leader who understands human nature will not ignore individual differences in talent, drive, personal appeal and work ethic, and then try to impose economic and social equality on the population – as liberals do. And a legislator who understands human nature will not create an environment of rules which over-regulates and over-taxes the nation's citizens, corrupts their character and reduces them to wards of the state – as liberals do."

Dr. Rossiter says the liberal agenda preys on weakness and feelings of inferiority in the population by:

creating and reinforcing perceptions of victimization;
satisfying infantile claims to entitlement, indulgence and compensation;

augmenting primitive feelings of envy;

rejecting the sovereignty of the individual, subordinating him to the will of the government.
"The roots of liberalism – and its associated madness – can be clearly identified by understanding how children develop from infancy to adulthood and how distorted development produces the irrational beliefs of the liberal mind," he says. "When the modern liberal mind whines about imaginary victims, rages against imaginary villains and seeks above all else to run the lives of persons competent to run their own lives, the neurosis of the liberal mind becomes painfully obvious."


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11/16/2008 12:21:50 PM   From:  whogo   Off with their heads. 
11/16/2008 12:22:37 PM   From:  whogo   Thanks, Chi. 
11/16/2008 1:15:49 PM   From:  PapaBryant   Hey Hugo...ummm,errr, Whogo.... Have you by chance read Liberal Fascism by Jonas Goldberg? I'd be interested in your take on it. I'm reading it now.
11/16/2008 2:23:05 PM   From:  Ali   This guy may have gained his 15 minutes of fame, but he just lost the credibility he bragged about.

I may not agree with the liberal's agenda, at all, but I don't think they're insane either.

Except maybe that one lady who thought she wouldn't have to pay for shit anymore since Obama won. That's crazy.

So the moral of the story is - Braggers stink.
11/16/2008 4:08:58 PM   From:  whogo   Yes, the more correct position is that liberals are either totally ignorant on economics and/or assholes. 
11/16/2008 4:22:44 PM   From:  MrsK   Yawn... Sad Sour Grapes...
11/16/2008 10:52:12 PM   From:  ImWithStupid   So, you liberals think that it's a sane thought to tell people not to try to exceed in life because whatever you want or need will be given to you. You don't think this would lead to a decline in the ability to advance, create, or excel as a society? Why not be lazy/unmotivated? In the end everyone gets what they need.

Seems like insanity to me. No sour grapes. Don't care who's in power, it's not like the last administration didn't do enough to take power and choice from the people, but I don't think we should sit back and let it continue in our personal, financial, and social lives.
11/16/2008 11:13:43 PM   From:  whogo   I believe beer drinking is a right and government should give everyone over 21 beer vouchers. 
11/17/2008 12:06:56 AM   From:  Peanuts   What was it a pint a day for every man? Yeah! It's the least the goverment can do to bring back!
11/17/2008 1:26:29 AM   From:  MrsK   I believe (IWS), that posts attacking liberals and democrats and Obama supporters have become even more desperate now that the election is over. I've had enough politics for the last couple of years to last me a good long while. I'm bored with it (hence the yawn) and am ready to move the hell on and be done with it.
11/17/2008 1:31:23 AM   From:  ImWithStupid   I'm sorry. I didn't realize that since you, MrsK, are bored with a topic we are all supposed to roll over and accept things as they are playing out. My appologies.
11/17/2008 1:33:34 AM   From:  MrsK   Ummm, did I tell you to shut up and keep your opinion to yourself? Trust me, if that is what I had done you wouldn't be the one needing to apologize.
11/17/2008 6:18:31 AM   From:  BCAR   I think the Obama thing is a forgone conclusion. The fact that Liberals have an obvious mental deficiency is something that must be dealt with. I say give them all Uzis and they can shoot themselves since they are so dangerous.
11/17/2008 6:21:05 AM   From:  BCAR   Also a well known fact is that Liberals have the sense of humor of a potato. Thanks Chi, and Mrsk
11/17/2008 8:44:08 AM   From:  timesjoke   I don't think they are mentally ill, they are just doing what they have to do to gain what many people want, power.

Obama tells the masses, if you elect me I will take money from the rich and give it to you without you having to earn it. This is buying votes.

To a certain extent, conservatives do it too but on a different level, they tell people whoo earn their money that they want to let them keep more of what they earn. The problem is the majority of voters benefit from wealth redistribution so they are not interested in keeping what they make, they already do not pay taxes and many get things like earned income credits that actually giive them more money back than they pay in.

To be honest, why would most voters not want the liberal socialist agenda?
11/17/2008 9:14:35 AM   From:  eddo   I agree with BCAR.



Thanks, Chi.
11/17/2008 12:00:04 PM   From:  ImWithStupid   quote from Timesjoke: "To be honest, why would most voters not want the liberal socialist agenda?"

Answer. Lots of people have pride and would rather earn their own money and don't want to rely on handouts for a way of life.
11/17/2008 12:18:58 PM   From:  mercury   yeah, but that doesn't get you free shit... :P
11/17/2008 12:33:28 PM   From:  whogo   The reason most Americans should not favor the liberal agenda is because it is a job killer. 
11/17/2008 12:37:23 PM   From:  MrsK   Medical care is now considered free shit? Heh, interesting. You know, I am a liberal, I am also a very hard worker, and I happen to have more pride than your average Joe Schmoe (or plummer lol). So Ireally can't fathom what the hell you people are talking about, since most of the people I associate with fall into the same category I do.
11/17/2008 1:11:36 PM   From:  timesjoke   MrsK, how much in federal taxes do you pay every year? Do you get earned income or other welfare programs provided to you, but paid for from others?


Most voters are voting from their situations and being as most do not pay any federal taxes, they are already living the socialist lifestyle.


The problem with this kind of system is your punnishing those who work harder to make more money by taxing them at higher levels then those not working harder. Where is the motivation to work harder? Yes, IWS made a good point that people 'should' have enough pride to not fall into this mentality but this kind of thing creeps up on us and after several generations of people turning to the governemnt to solve their problems, we have gotten to this point.


Look to Canada, some areas are spending 50% of their tax income on medical care that is in some cases substandard because the system has become an out of control monster feeding on itself. There is no drive for new treatments or innovations because everyone is a government employee. The only place I have ever seen motivated government employees is in elementary schools and even these are starting to decline.
11/17/2008 1:16:28 PM   From:  MrsK   I will not disclose what I pay, but I DO pay and I do NOT get a refund. Nor do I use grant money for school, I am on student loans. And puhlease, spare me the hard working individual who earns more. Anyone who has ever worked a day in their life in this country should know by now that the harder you work the less money you make, and if you know how to stare at a computer and push buttons you make the big bucks. The more money you make the better chances your kids have of riding on your coat tails and getting a cushy not-so-earned education so they too can learn to press buttons and manipulate the "other" system.
11/17/2008 1:57:33 PM   From:  timesjoke   Just push buttons? Is it really that easy?

Maybe a few people who make a lot of big money do not work very hard but most of the middle class are not lounging around like you seem to think. I cannot remember the last time I put in less then 60 hours a week into making money. Do you know why most people with money have a full office at home? Because while the average joe who is watching the clock for 5:00 so they can go home, the rest of us sometimes take work home because things that need to be done do not go away just because of a magic number on the clock.

I have a full time job and run a couple businesses. One of the companies I am running is an HVAC business and I am currently working on my GC license so I can build homes. Do you have any idea how much time I am putting into this? When you divide out what I pay myself compared to the time I put in I make less money than my technicians.
11/17/2008 4:19:27 PM   From:  BCAR    "Anyone who has ever worked a day in their life in this country should know by now that the harder you work the less money you make," People are paid for the value they deliver to their employer, pretty simple economics.


Therefore the person who sits and collects government handouts is worthless.
11/17/2008 5:39:57 PM   From:  MrsK   Ok, let me spell this out for you - Not - All - Liberals - (but some Republicans) - Sit - At - Home - And - Collect - Government - Hand - Outs. MANY MANY MANY Of Us Hold Jobs, Go To School, Support Ourselves And Our Families, and HAVE PLENTY OF PRIDE. So please get off your moral high horse, because sitting on your laurels is a non-partisan, Nont Liberal and Non Conservative habit.
11/17/2008 9:43:55 PM   From:  PapaBryant   Its not the recipients that recieve government largese that are the problem here. Its which party wants there to be more recipients the fastest. In that regard, K is right - there isn't much difference between the parties. The Dems DO want more people on the government dime faster, but both parties are moving towards socialism.

This is because there is a functional disconnect between what socialists call freedom and what has been classically called freedom. Conservative Libertarianism (or what philosophers call Classic Liberalism) is a doctrine stressing the importance of human rationality, individual property rights, natural rights, the protection of civil liberties, constitutional limitations of government, free markets, and individual freedom from restraint as exemplified in the writings of Adam Smith, David Ricardo, Jeremy Bentham, and John Stuart Mill. For the Conservative Liberatian, freedom means a lack of restriction on ones actions and that restrictions are placed on actions by society only after consensus is reached. For example, I can drive where I want as fast as I want, but doing so might cause harm to others who also want to drive as fast as they want. So, to ensure that both myself and any other driver can get where we want to go as quickly as possible without having the other cause interference all drivers agree to drive at a designated speed along certain stretches of road and to obey traffic laws (I.E. - self imposed restrictions), and to allow designated agents to enforce those laws. Freedom under the Conservative means I can pursue what I want the way I want to do it, as long as I don't impeed the right of someone else to do likewise in the process.

Socialism believes freedom is concerned with material matters. In order that everyones material needs be met, individuals can be forced to engage in tasks they do not want to engage in if the results benefit society as a whole. This is why socialists are interested in planned economies; until every material need is met everyone should be engaged in the communal task of meeting those needs. If this makes you unhappy because your personal desires aren't being met, too bad, you should be thinking of others and not yourself - then you would be happy. For the socialist, whether he or she be a Liberal (in the modern sense), Progressive, Fascist or Communist, freedom means freedom FROM consequences rather than freedom TO something.
11/18/2008 4:34:00 AM   From:  BCAR   The gun debate I have engaged in over the last 24 hours proves the connection between Liberals and mental disorder.
11/18/2008 6:03:59 AM   From:  timesjoke   Nice post PB. But those who want freedom FROM consequences will tend to also indulge in self delusion as a protective barrior to be able to know that is what they are doing.

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